Combating Racism - by any means necessary
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:44 am
Dear Friends,
Allah'u'Abha!
It is with a heavy heart that I begin this discussion with you about Racism.
I personally recently encountered an extremely racist web site that was basically an open discussion forum that predominately dealt with American Capitialist economic thought and yet had only three rules
no spam
no porn
no personal attacks
It seems basic enough except the moderators who ran the show got to determine what was "spam" what was "porn" and most importantly what was "personal attacks" .... one day someone started viscously slandering and attacking the black race .... I stood up and said now wait a minute this is wrong to call the black race ____ ... ... ... and from that day on we battled for three weeks or more .... in all sorts of ways .......
I started my own thread entitled "Combating Racism"
another person started a thread "don't let Onepence bait you"
time and time again I would say various posters where posting vulgar and insulting raciest remarks
time and time again posters would respond with ... I wish Onepence would just leave our forum ..... ..... I mean countless times I was attacked ... put Onepence on ignore ... Onepence leave our forum ...... Onepence you write about oneness yet you are devisive ... ... Onepence get off your soapbox .... ... ... Onepence this Onepence that ... twopencetroll this two pencetroll that ...... ....
time and time again I would post new threads about Racism and Race issues .... both in America and abroad ...... ...... ...... I would try to issue up new threads so we could discuss different issues ... ... nobody was interested in learning ..... ....... ...... just interested in sticking with their friends and ganging up on writers who's views where different from theirs ..... ........ even started a thread on Human Rights and economic development, think anybody interested, think again, .... just a faint heartbeat of American sloganism ... ... .... shame really .... cuz I really was learning a lot and had nobody to share my love for knowledge and character development with there ...... ...... .......
so eventually one person said good-bye ... a woman poster ... who wasn't interested in reading all the women hating/bashing comments going on .... and might I add the mods were not doing anything ... free speech don't you know ...... ...... ...... same day somebody else says goodbye .... tired of all the hate of this or that .... ...... .... and so I said to myself said I ... two people are gone, no way did any thug or group of thugs run me off, two people gone I can go with these two people and exit gracefully from this forum and so I said goodbye part three ... ... ...
now granted this story is onesided, written totally from my point of view, .... .... but I tell you something else of interest ... ... I often complained to the mods about personal attacks ..... ..... ...... and I also tried to change the structure of how the forum board was controlled .... forum board controlled by owners who "paid" for the site by donations so the so called founding fathers got to chose who were the mods .... .... I wanted to change to democracy, but more specifically to constitutional monarchy ... .... and the response was love it or leave it my board don't try to unionize the posters here, in fact, i will sick my dogs after you, and watch how they attack you while i do nothing but laugh at you being attacked ....... ..... .....
shewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
what a battle
what a freaking nightmare that place was
shewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
time and time again I would complain about personal attacks
and the response by the mods was really something to behold
in fact the response by the mods is what led me to write this note,
and God willing to follow up with a few more essays .... ..... .....
yes the response by the mods turned out to be key in my character development ...... and perhaps by writing all the ordeals I went through ...... and then you learning what the mods response was ..... ...... ....... and then looking for deeper meanings in the words of Baha'u'llah and learning the example that Abdu'l-Baha set and seeking further understanding from our Guardian then maybe just maybe you, the readers can understand that certain things in life can never be changed and perhaps it is wiser to accept fate then trying to be a fate resistor .. .... ...... .......
so I betch wondering what the mods wrote ... huh .... now minda this site was not affliated with the Baha'i Faith in any way shape or forum .... ...... ..... just some private individuals who like to boast they know gold is money ... lol .... like who doesn't know gold is money ..... ...... so to me their boasting, while exciting at first, but in the end seemed very "poor white trash" to me .... ....... ... lol ...... ....... yep poor white trash and not in any type of good sense about the words ......
gold is money ..... yep i figured that out toooooo ..... without the site of poor white trash I was able to figure it out ...... also on my own was able to counter their sooooooooo materialistic viewpoint of the world slogan
He who owns the gold makes the rules!
lol ...... ohhhhhhh they where soooooooooooooo proud of their slogan
He who owns the gold makes the rules
lol ..... yeah welll I got some gold for ya
He who owns the gold owns just a piece of yellow stone. ..... lol
well needless to say my slogan didn't play to well in pierieo
but I sure did learn more about my own personal character and viewpoint.
in fact, my own personal character and viewpoint drew up all sorts of theories and conclussions while dealing with the poor white trash that insists on only looking at the material viewpoint of life
one theory is this
The Lesser Peace is basically an {aethist} Islamic Superstate who pretends to be religious by allowing certain religious thought to florish {christian/jew/hindu/budha/etc} but denies the Writings of Baha'u'llah; furthermore this aethist Islamic Superstate will create an economic science, in the same way that scientsist created botany and trampled beneath their feet the magical kingdom of the plants, these scientist will determine every last job to be worth so many grams of gold ..... .....
a dentist is worth this much gram of gold
a newspaper writer this much
a bag of tea this much
a trash collector this much
on so down the kingdom, phyla, class, order, family, genius, species.
cuz ... it ain't he who owns the gold makes the rule
it is however the King who makes the rules .....
but I have digressed, quite severely I am afraid, so please do forgive me, the point I was making was I had contributed much economic thought to a group that had predomiantly flagrant raciest views ...... and was personally attacked when I started seeking remedies to what I considered to me violations of human rights .... ..... ......
and when I complained to the mods about being personally attacked
this is what the mods wrote back
Since I see nothing
I will do nothing
russ
fair enough ..... ..... I stuck it out at the site ..... ..... being mercilessly attacked ..... and the mods seeing nothing and doing nothing ....... ....... ...... .....
so guess what I decided ...... ...... any guesses as to where I am going .....
what sort of conclussions I can draw ..... ......
Hear no evil
See no evil
..... Abdu'l Baha made it through WWI alive and kicking .... ....
See no evil
Hear no evil
Speak no evil
...... ...... you betcha ......
I see nothing
I will do nothing
........ .......
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flower power people {new/old age/\odds&ends
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christian
///////////////
aim {american Indian movement}
//////////////
muslem
/////////////////////
----------------------------
.... a new Jeruslam ..........
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so imho ... while these guys duke it out .... I simplly plan to
See no evil
...... you guys do what you want ...... but that is my plan ......
I mean I come from a poor white trash background .... I ain't no law enforcement .... I can't make nobody shut up ..... .... there where plenty of oppurtunities for Abdu'l Baha to pick up a gun and demand somebody do something or somebody stop doing something ....... as far as I know Abdu'l Baha never picked up a gun to demand anything ...... ....... never ....... sooooo ....
there will be a lot of tough decessions to make in America .....
we may not have to make em for a while,
but one day .... we will all have to chose sides or have sides chosen for us
God willing I will remain as pro Baha'i as ever
and become more neutral on all other subjects
remember time is on our side
and a new American slogan one day may be
The only good Baha'i is a dead Baha'i
soooooooo I say ...... enjoy the freedom of religion while we got it ......
plant the message of Baha'u'llah firmly in the soil of our hearts
and don't become sidetracked by any racist seeking to disturb the Most Great Peace
........
God willing I will write more about racism at a later date
and the next note I will try not to digress soooo much!
a person of oneness,
Dean Hedges
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"He Whom the world hath wronged (may my life be offered for His loved ones) was four times banished from city to city, till at last condemned to perpetual confinement, He was incarcerated in this Prison, the prison of highway robbers, of brigands and of manslayers."
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"The basis of authority in the case of the Shar’, or Ecclesiastical Law, consists of the utterances of the Prophet in the Qur’án; of the opinions of the Twelve Holy Imáms, whose voice in the judgment of the Shí’ah Muhammadans is of scarcely inferior weight; and of the commentaries of a school of pre-eminent ecclesiastical jurists. The latter have played much the same part in adding to the volume of the national jurisprudence that the famous juris consulti did with the Common Law of Rome, or the Talmudic commentators with the Hebrew system. The body of law so framed has been roughly codified and divided into four heads, .... "
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Allah'u'Abha!
It is with a heavy heart that I begin this discussion with you about Racism.
I personally recently encountered an extremely racist web site that was basically an open discussion forum that predominately dealt with American Capitialist economic thought and yet had only three rules
no spam
no porn
no personal attacks
It seems basic enough except the moderators who ran the show got to determine what was "spam" what was "porn" and most importantly what was "personal attacks" .... one day someone started viscously slandering and attacking the black race .... I stood up and said now wait a minute this is wrong to call the black race ____ ... ... ... and from that day on we battled for three weeks or more .... in all sorts of ways .......
I started my own thread entitled "Combating Racism"
another person started a thread "don't let Onepence bait you"
time and time again I would say various posters where posting vulgar and insulting raciest remarks
time and time again posters would respond with ... I wish Onepence would just leave our forum ..... ..... I mean countless times I was attacked ... put Onepence on ignore ... Onepence leave our forum ...... Onepence you write about oneness yet you are devisive ... ... Onepence get off your soapbox .... ... ... Onepence this Onepence that ... twopencetroll this two pencetroll that ...... ....
time and time again I would post new threads about Racism and Race issues .... both in America and abroad ...... ...... ...... I would try to issue up new threads so we could discuss different issues ... ... nobody was interested in learning ..... ....... ...... just interested in sticking with their friends and ganging up on writers who's views where different from theirs ..... ........ even started a thread on Human Rights and economic development, think anybody interested, think again, .... just a faint heartbeat of American sloganism ... ... .... shame really .... cuz I really was learning a lot and had nobody to share my love for knowledge and character development with there ...... ...... .......
so eventually one person said good-bye ... a woman poster ... who wasn't interested in reading all the women hating/bashing comments going on .... and might I add the mods were not doing anything ... free speech don't you know ...... ...... ...... same day somebody else says goodbye .... tired of all the hate of this or that .... ...... .... and so I said to myself said I ... two people are gone, no way did any thug or group of thugs run me off, two people gone I can go with these two people and exit gracefully from this forum and so I said goodbye part three ... ... ...
now granted this story is onesided, written totally from my point of view, .... .... but I tell you something else of interest ... ... I often complained to the mods about personal attacks ..... ..... ...... and I also tried to change the structure of how the forum board was controlled .... forum board controlled by owners who "paid" for the site by donations so the so called founding fathers got to chose who were the mods .... .... I wanted to change to democracy, but more specifically to constitutional monarchy ... .... and the response was love it or leave it my board don't try to unionize the posters here, in fact, i will sick my dogs after you, and watch how they attack you while i do nothing but laugh at you being attacked ....... ..... .....
shewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
what a battle
what a freaking nightmare that place was
shewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
time and time again I would complain about personal attacks
and the response by the mods was really something to behold
in fact the response by the mods is what led me to write this note,
and God willing to follow up with a few more essays .... ..... .....
yes the response by the mods turned out to be key in my character development ...... and perhaps by writing all the ordeals I went through ...... and then you learning what the mods response was ..... ...... ....... and then looking for deeper meanings in the words of Baha'u'llah and learning the example that Abdu'l-Baha set and seeking further understanding from our Guardian then maybe just maybe you, the readers can understand that certain things in life can never be changed and perhaps it is wiser to accept fate then trying to be a fate resistor .. .... ...... .......
so I betch wondering what the mods wrote ... huh .... now minda this site was not affliated with the Baha'i Faith in any way shape or forum .... ...... ..... just some private individuals who like to boast they know gold is money ... lol .... like who doesn't know gold is money ..... ...... so to me their boasting, while exciting at first, but in the end seemed very "poor white trash" to me .... ....... ... lol ...... ....... yep poor white trash and not in any type of good sense about the words ......
gold is money ..... yep i figured that out toooooo ..... without the site of poor white trash I was able to figure it out ...... also on my own was able to counter their sooooooooo materialistic viewpoint of the world slogan
He who owns the gold makes the rules!
lol ...... ohhhhhhh they where soooooooooooooo proud of their slogan
He who owns the gold makes the rules
lol ..... yeah welll I got some gold for ya
He who owns the gold owns just a piece of yellow stone. ..... lol
well needless to say my slogan didn't play to well in pierieo
but I sure did learn more about my own personal character and viewpoint.
in fact, my own personal character and viewpoint drew up all sorts of theories and conclussions while dealing with the poor white trash that insists on only looking at the material viewpoint of life
one theory is this
The Lesser Peace is basically an {aethist} Islamic Superstate who pretends to be religious by allowing certain religious thought to florish {christian/jew/hindu/budha/etc} but denies the Writings of Baha'u'llah; furthermore this aethist Islamic Superstate will create an economic science, in the same way that scientsist created botany and trampled beneath their feet the magical kingdom of the plants, these scientist will determine every last job to be worth so many grams of gold ..... .....
a dentist is worth this much gram of gold
a newspaper writer this much
a bag of tea this much
a trash collector this much
on so down the kingdom, phyla, class, order, family, genius, species.
cuz ... it ain't he who owns the gold makes the rule
it is however the King who makes the rules .....
but I have digressed, quite severely I am afraid, so please do forgive me, the point I was making was I had contributed much economic thought to a group that had predomiantly flagrant raciest views ...... and was personally attacked when I started seeking remedies to what I considered to me violations of human rights .... ..... ......
and when I complained to the mods about being personally attacked
this is what the mods wrote back
Since I see nothing
I will do nothing
russ
fair enough ..... ..... I stuck it out at the site ..... ..... being mercilessly attacked ..... and the mods seeing nothing and doing nothing ....... ....... ...... .....
so guess what I decided ...... ...... any guesses as to where I am going .....
what sort of conclussions I can draw ..... ......
Hear no evil
See no evil
..... Abdu'l Baha made it through WWI alive and kicking .... ....
See no evil
Hear no evil
Speak no evil
...... ...... you betcha ......
I see nothing
I will do nothing
........ .......
//////////////
flower power people {new/old age/\odds&ends
////////////////
christian
///////////////
aim {american Indian movement}
//////////////
muslem
/////////////////////
----------------------------
.... a new Jeruslam ..........
------------------------------
so imho ... while these guys duke it out .... I simplly plan to
See no evil
...... you guys do what you want ...... but that is my plan ......
I mean I come from a poor white trash background .... I ain't no law enforcement .... I can't make nobody shut up ..... .... there where plenty of oppurtunities for Abdu'l Baha to pick up a gun and demand somebody do something or somebody stop doing something ....... as far as I know Abdu'l Baha never picked up a gun to demand anything ...... ....... never ....... sooooo ....
there will be a lot of tough decessions to make in America .....
we may not have to make em for a while,
but one day .... we will all have to chose sides or have sides chosen for us
God willing I will remain as pro Baha'i as ever
and become more neutral on all other subjects
remember time is on our side
and a new American slogan one day may be
The only good Baha'i is a dead Baha'i
soooooooo I say ...... enjoy the freedom of religion while we got it ......
plant the message of Baha'u'llah firmly in the soil of our hearts
and don't become sidetracked by any racist seeking to disturb the Most Great Peace
........
God willing I will write more about racism at a later date
and the next note I will try not to digress soooo much!
a person of oneness,
Dean Hedges
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"He Whom the world hath wronged (may my life be offered for His loved ones) was four times banished from city to city, till at last condemned to perpetual confinement, He was incarcerated in this Prison, the prison of highway robbers, of brigands and of manslayers."
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"The basis of authority in the case of the Shar’, or Ecclesiastical Law, consists of the utterances of the Prophet in the Qur’án; of the opinions of the Twelve Holy Imáms, whose voice in the judgment of the Shí’ah Muhammadans is of scarcely inferior weight; and of the commentaries of a school of pre-eminent ecclesiastical jurists. The latter have played much the same part in adding to the volume of the national jurisprudence that the famous juris consulti did with the Common Law of Rome, or the Talmudic commentators with the Hebrew system. The body of law so framed has been roughly codified and divided into four heads, .... "
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